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		<title>By: anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.bedstuyblog.com/2007/11/just-doing-their-jobs-or-excessive-enforcement-of-the-law/comment-page-1/#comment-2473</link>
		<dc:creator>anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Nov 2007 00:25:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NYC Traffic Rules

3) Bicycles and limited use vehicles.

(i) No person shall ride or operate a bicycle upon any sidewalk area

unless permitted by sign. This prohibition shall not apply to the operation

of bicycles with wheels of less than 26 inches in diameter upon the

sidewalk by children of 12 years or less in age.</description>
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<p>3) Bicycles and limited use vehicles.</p>
<p>(i) No person shall ride or operate a bicycle upon any sidewalk area</p>
<p>unless permitted by sign. This prohibition shall not apply to the operation</p>
<p>of bicycles with wheels of less than 26 inches in diameter upon the</p>
<p>sidewalk by children of 12 years or less in age.</p>
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		<title>By: anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 23:56:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: malcats</title>
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		<dc:creator>malcats</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 17:14:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anon 9:16
You seem to understand a thing or two about cycling and &quot;protocol&quot; or traffic laws so to speak.  Could you elaborate?  Maybe offer a mini course for driver/cyclist ideas &amp; safety tips?
I was not aware of the tactic you just described.
This also makes me think that as apart of getting license drivers should be required to have cyclist sensitivity training of some sort.  
I wish the same could be enforced for cyclists, but there is no mechanism for that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anon 9:16<br />
You seem to understand a thing or two about cycling and &#8220;protocol&#8221; or traffic laws so to speak.  Could you elaborate?  Maybe offer a mini course for driver/cyclist ideas &amp; safety tips?<br />
I was not aware of the tactic you just described.<br />
This also makes me think that as apart of getting license drivers should be required to have cyclist sensitivity training of some sort.<br />
I wish the same could be enforced for cyclists, but there is no mechanism for that.</p>
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		<title>By: anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 02:16:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That last provision allows you to &quot;take the lane&quot; when you need to, even if you delay traffic behind you. If you &quot;take the lane,&quot; do it clearly and obviously. Hugging the edge of a narrow lane encourages motorists to try to squeeze by. If you believe the lane is too narrow, don&#039;t invite the traffic behind you to attempt to prove you wrong. Fortunately, we have lots of wide curb lanes, where motorists can safely overtake cyclists without inconvenience or fear.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That last provision allows you to &#8220;take the lane&#8221; when you need to, even if you delay traffic behind you. If you &#8220;take the lane,&#8221; do it clearly and obviously. Hugging the edge of a narrow lane encourages motorists to try to squeeze by. If you believe the lane is too narrow, don&#8217;t invite the traffic behind you to attempt to prove you wrong. Fortunately, we have lots of wide curb lanes, where motorists can safely overtake cyclists without inconvenience or fear.</p>
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		<title>By: Malcats</title>
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		<dc:creator>Malcats</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 15:10:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your â€œwhyâ€ is a rhetorical question right?

I will indulge nonetheless.  The â€œwhyâ€ is because in this world where we hope and dream of obliterating racism  - racism still exists.  Sometimes it is blatant and sometimes it is served up as the insidious, covert manner, under the auspices of enforcing the law and making our community a better place to live.  As I pointed out earlier, it was an infraction and while admittedly ignorant of the law, you have admitted your liability in the situation.  I understand your frustration and anger.   It is is driven by  the manner and  the tactics of NYPD; it is the inconsistency of the application of the laws; it is the unnecessary personal comments often made by officers while doing what they are well within the law to do.  When these things occur â€“ they happen because there is an ugly racist, classicist undertone that exists in our communities.  You are feeling the pain that most people of color that are our age, education, and economic background,  have begun to realize and deal with.  That none of that shields you from the evils of the world.  And please do not think that just because you share a common skin color that you are going to get â€œsympatheticâ€ treatment or the â€œbenefit of the doubtâ€ from a police officer!  You are smarter than that â€“ I just know it!

By the way for those members of the community that are white, when these things happen  please recognize it for what it is because this is discrimination. When it happens in this community to blacks it happens to you too.  It undermines the community and the well being of people that you have chosen to live in and widens the door for you too to be mistreated and discriminated against.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your â€œwhyâ€ is a rhetorical question right?</p>
<p>I will indulge nonetheless.  The â€œwhyâ€ is because in this world where we hope and dream of obliterating racism  &#8211; racism still exists.  Sometimes it is blatant and sometimes it is served up as the insidious, covert manner, under the auspices of enforcing the law and making our community a better place to live.  As I pointed out earlier, it was an infraction and while admittedly ignorant of the law, you have admitted your liability in the situation.  I understand your frustration and anger.   It is is driven by  the manner and  the tactics of NYPD; it is the inconsistency of the application of the laws; it is the unnecessary personal comments often made by officers while doing what they are well within the law to do.  When these things occur â€“ they happen because there is an ugly racist, classicist undertone that exists in our communities.  You are feeling the pain that most people of color that are our age, education, and economic background,  have begun to realize and deal with.  That none of that shields you from the evils of the world.  And please do not think that just because you share a common skin color that you are going to get â€œsympatheticâ€ treatment or the â€œbenefit of the doubtâ€ from a police officer!  You are smarter than that â€“ I just know it!</p>
<p>By the way for those members of the community that are white, when these things happen  please recognize it for what it is because this is discrimination. When it happens in this community to blacks it happens to you too.  It undermines the community and the well being of people that you have chosen to live in and widens the door for you too to be mistreated and discriminated against.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Jones, Jr.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Jones, Jr.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 12:42:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello everyone,

I just wanted to say that my partner and I weren&#039;t aware that riding on the sidewalk, even as briefly as we did (I swear that it was less than 10 seconds, there was no one else on the sidewalk, and we ONLY did it to avoid the B46 and oncoming traffic--the street was too narrow for traffic to pass with us in the street as well) was against the law.  Neither of us have rode bikes in a really long time (I think the last time I was on a bike was 12 years ago).  That said, we understand why we were given the summonses.  

What we DON&#039;T understand was the police officers&#039; derogatory assumption that we were guilty of something OTHER than riding our bikes on the sidewalk.  What we DON&#039;T understand is the police officers&#039; decision to pat us down in front of passers-by like we were common hoodlums.  My partner, a lawyer, explained to me that the officers have the discretion to do so once any sort of infraction has been perpetrated, but we were fully cooperating, we did everything they asked, we gave them our driver&#039;s licenses, they radioed their HQ and found that we had no records, so why did they still look at us, talk to us, and treat us like we were suspects in a robbery--especially the black officer?

Why?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello everyone,</p>
<p>I just wanted to say that my partner and I weren&#8217;t aware that riding on the sidewalk, even as briefly as we did (I swear that it was less than 10 seconds, there was no one else on the sidewalk, and we ONLY did it to avoid the B46 and oncoming traffic&#8211;the street was too narrow for traffic to pass with us in the street as well) was against the law.  Neither of us have rode bikes in a really long time (I think the last time I was on a bike was 12 years ago).  That said, we understand why we were given the summonses.  </p>
<p>What we DON&#8217;T understand was the police officers&#8217; derogatory assumption that we were guilty of something OTHER than riding our bikes on the sidewalk.  What we DON&#8217;T understand is the police officers&#8217; decision to pat us down in front of passers-by like we were common hoodlums.  My partner, a lawyer, explained to me that the officers have the discretion to do so once any sort of infraction has been perpetrated, but we were fully cooperating, we did everything they asked, we gave them our driver&#8217;s licenses, they radioed their HQ and found that we had no records, so why did they still look at us, talk to us, and treat us like we were suspects in a robbery&#8211;especially the black officer?</p>
<p>Why?</p>
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		<title>By: BK all day</title>
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		<dc:creator>BK all day</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 19:10:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First off, don&#039;t ride your bike on the sidewalk. I got knocked on my ass by some jerk  a while back and have close calls periodically (all in Park Slope).  Riding on the sidewalk is just not safe, let&#039;s face it.

That being said, selective enforcement(especially when based on Race) is just fucking ridiculous.  I&#039;ve never seen anyone ticketed for this offense, but then again 90% of the folks I see doing this are white.

Lastly, #12, foosball.  you are a f%$g idiot.  Mexico is not the third world, it is part of North America, hence the &quot;second world&quot; just like the USA (Western Europe being the first world of course).  Besides, the concept of a third world is so outdated and just plain offensive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First off, don&#8217;t ride your bike on the sidewalk. I got knocked on my ass by some jerk  a while back and have close calls periodically (all in Park Slope).  Riding on the sidewalk is just not safe, let&#8217;s face it.</p>
<p>That being said, selective enforcement(especially when based on Race) is just fucking ridiculous.  I&#8217;ve never seen anyone ticketed for this offense, but then again 90% of the folks I see doing this are white.</p>
<p>Lastly, #12, foosball.  you are a f%$g idiot.  Mexico is not the third world, it is part of North America, hence the &#8220;second world&#8221; just like the USA (Western Europe being the first world of course).  Besides, the concept of a third world is so outdated and just plain offensive.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 17:24:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just got a courtdate for this two days ago.  I ride from my house to the street via a sidewalk, probably on it less than 10 seconds.  Courtdate.  The cop listed all the bad things that had happened that day too before giving me the ticket:  someone got shot, someone got robbed at gun point, busted two crack dealers...  Then gave me a ticket.  Also, a small hispanic man on a children&#039;s bike rode by and the cop made fun of him for riding a children&#039;s bike, then made fun of him for being short, then asked him if he had &quot;the rock.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just got a courtdate for this two days ago.  I ride from my house to the street via a sidewalk, probably on it less than 10 seconds.  Courtdate.  The cop listed all the bad things that had happened that day too before giving me the ticket:  someone got shot, someone got robbed at gun point, busted two crack dealers&#8230;  Then gave me a ticket.  Also, a small hispanic man on a children&#8217;s bike rode by and the cop made fun of him for riding a children&#8217;s bike, then made fun of him for being short, then asked him if he had &#8220;the rock.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Big Brother</title>
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		<dc:creator>Big Brother</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 17:00:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ha ha.
i am a white native ny&#039;er and i just spent 2.5 days in jail for riding my bike into a gas station to avoid hitting a police car that was parked in the middle of bedford ticketing bikers. turns out i had a ticket from 1994 and no-one wanted to drive me into manhattan to see the judge. so they left me in stir for a couple of days. btw--the majority of folks locked up with me were middle-aged black men in there for buying POT. in 2007. when are these bs laws going to change? vote people!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ha ha.<br />
i am a white native ny&#8217;er and i just spent 2.5 days in jail for riding my bike into a gas station to avoid hitting a police car that was parked in the middle of bedford ticketing bikers. turns out i had a ticket from 1994 and no-one wanted to drive me into manhattan to see the judge. so they left me in stir for a couple of days. btw&#8211;the majority of folks locked up with me were middle-aged black men in there for buying POT. in 2007. when are these bs laws going to change? vote people!</p>
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		<title>By: Big Brothere</title>
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		<dc:creator>Big Brothere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 16:56:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ha ha.
i am a white native ny&#039;er and i just spent 2.5 days in jail for riding my bike into a gas station to avoid hitting a police car that was parked in the middle of bedford ticketing bikers. turns out i had a ticket from 1994 and no-one wanted to drive me into manhattan to see the judge.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ha ha.<br />
i am a white native ny&#8217;er and i just spent 2.5 days in jail for riding my bike into a gas station to avoid hitting a police car that was parked in the middle of bedford ticketing bikers. turns out i had a ticket from 1994 and no-one wanted to drive me into manhattan to see the judge.</p>
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