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	<title>Comments on: Who&#8217;s Better, Who&#8217;s Best? Bed-Stuy vs. Bushwick</title>
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		<title>By: Rejin/Urban Botany</title>
		<link>http://www.bedstuyblog.com/2007/11/whos-better-whos-best-bed-stuy-vs-bushwick/comment-page-2/#comment-5625</link>
		<dc:creator>Rejin/Urban Botany</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 22:02:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not sure about the cats point - on my (Bed-Stuy) block, the chicken places seem to attract stray cats. Note to chicken lovers: don&#039;t toss bones up and down the sidewalk on your way home, OK?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not sure about the cats point &#8211; on my (Bed-Stuy) block, the chicken places seem to attract stray cats. Note to chicken lovers: don&#8217;t toss bones up and down the sidewalk on your way home, OK?</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
		<link>http://www.bedstuyblog.com/2007/11/whos-better-whos-best-bed-stuy-vs-bushwick/comment-page-2/#comment-4433</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 18:34:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not simple, that is true.  It&#039;s usually presented in simple terms from the other side however.  That it is a &quot;black neighborhood&quot; that whites have their eye on.  Harlem, sure... but Bed-Stuy has been a white neighborhood for at least  a majority of its history.

I don&#039;t believe Bed-Stuy should be a white neighborhood in the future.  But I do believe that it should be an eclectic mixed neighborhood, given its eclectic mixed history.

By the way, it isn&#039;t so far ago that it is &quot;in history books&quot;.  My father, who is white, was born and raised in Bed-Stuy... as was his mother, also white.  Unlike say Harlem, it Bed-Stuy a very real white history that was not very long ago.  I&#039;d like to visit it again someday when whites are a part of the neighborhood fabric again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not simple, that is true.  It&#8217;s usually presented in simple terms from the other side however.  That it is a &#8220;black neighborhood&#8221; that whites have their eye on.  Harlem, sure&#8230; but Bed-Stuy has been a white neighborhood for at least  a majority of its history.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t believe Bed-Stuy should be a white neighborhood in the future.  But I do believe that it should be an eclectic mixed neighborhood, given its eclectic mixed history.</p>
<p>By the way, it isn&#8217;t so far ago that it is &#8220;in history books&#8221;.  My father, who is white, was born and raised in Bed-Stuy&#8230; as was his mother, also white.  Unlike say Harlem, it Bed-Stuy a very real white history that was not very long ago.  I&#8217;d like to visit it again someday when whites are a part of the neighborhood fabric again.</p>
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		<title>By: laduchessa</title>
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		<dc:creator>laduchessa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 16:29:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>of course the counter to your statement, ben, is that while white people may have settled the neighborhood and built homes here they eventually left when it took an economic turn for the worse, let it fall apart,  teeter on the edge of urban blight, and was resuscitated by the black community gradually over the last couple of  generations. 

also, it is not as if there are no cultural or historical ties for the black community here.  check out weeksville as evidence of that: http://www.weeksvillesociety.org/node/2

my point isn&#039;t to argue with you, it&#039;s just that it isn&#039;t quite as simple as that. and every single neighborhhod in new york city has seen the populations change over their histories in terms of economics, race, religion, etc. what is at hand here is that people are very affected by the change that is actively taking place before their eyes, not being read about in the history books.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>of course the counter to your statement, ben, is that while white people may have settled the neighborhood and built homes here they eventually left when it took an economic turn for the worse, let it fall apart,  teeter on the edge of urban blight, and was resuscitated by the black community gradually over the last couple of  generations. </p>
<p>also, it is not as if there are no cultural or historical ties for the black community here.  check out weeksville as evidence of that: <a href="http://www.weeksvillesociety.org/node/2" rel="nofollow">http://www.weeksvillesociety.org/node/2</a></p>
<p>my point isn&#8217;t to argue with you, it&#8217;s just that it isn&#8217;t quite as simple as that. and every single neighborhhod in new york city has seen the populations change over their histories in terms of economics, race, religion, etc. what is at hand here is that people are very affected by the change that is actively taking place before their eyes, not being read about in the history books.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 12:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t help but notice that no one mentioned the white people who came from Bed-Stuy. 

Carl Sagan, one of the world&#039;s most famous scientists was born and grew up in Bed-Stuy.  Jackie Gleason was from Bed-Stuy.   Because it is mostly black now, does that mean we sweep this neighborhood&#039;s white history under the rug?

I wonder if any the black people who want to &quot;rise up&quot; and &quot;protect THEIR neighborhood&quot; from the hipster influx realize that white people were in the neighborhood far before any blacks set up roots here?

White people built all those nice brownstones, and white people lived in them for 50 years before blacks ever came to the neighborhood.  It&#039;s a dirty secret I know, but it&#039;s true.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t help but notice that no one mentioned the white people who came from Bed-Stuy. </p>
<p>Carl Sagan, one of the world&#8217;s most famous scientists was born and grew up in Bed-Stuy.  Jackie Gleason was from Bed-Stuy.   Because it is mostly black now, does that mean we sweep this neighborhood&#8217;s white history under the rug?</p>
<p>I wonder if any the black people who want to &#8220;rise up&#8221; and &#8220;protect THEIR neighborhood&#8221; from the hipster influx realize that white people were in the neighborhood far before any blacks set up roots here?</p>
<p>White people built all those nice brownstones, and white people lived in them for 50 years before blacks ever came to the neighborhood.  It&#8217;s a dirty secret I know, but it&#8217;s true.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 22:43:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, this just keeps going on. All this just buttresses further my observation that New Yorkers are a bunch of whiny, overly-sensitive, humorless, reverse-provincial brats. Fuck, how many times can you people call me a racist without citing ANY evidence? Can you please cite one thing? And every negative mention of my &quot;Red Hook&quot; post (uh, actually it&#039;s about gentrification in general, and not subtly at all, I add) is also free of citation.

So make with the photos of me in my white hood or quit your whining. You embarrass yourselves -- though you do contribute to my and Petra&#039;s well-being through the healing properties of laughter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, this just keeps going on. All this just buttresses further my observation that New Yorkers are a bunch of whiny, overly-sensitive, humorless, reverse-provincial brats. Fuck, how many times can you people call me a racist without citing ANY evidence? Can you please cite one thing? And every negative mention of my &#8220;Red Hook&#8221; post (uh, actually it&#8217;s about gentrification in general, and not subtly at all, I add) is also free of citation.</p>
<p>So make with the photos of me in my white hood or quit your whining. You embarrass yourselves &#8212; though you do contribute to my and Petra&#8217;s well-being through the healing properties of laughter.</p>
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		<title>By: Hrag</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hrag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 02:59:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think anyone who thinks they are the &quot;real&quot; neighborhood and others are not are full of shit...we all choose to live in a place and get an equal voice.
I&#039;ve learned quite a bit about Bed-Stuy from this string.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think anyone who thinks they are the &#8220;real&#8221; neighborhood and others are not are full of shit&#8230;we all choose to live in a place and get an equal voice.<br />
I&#8217;ve learned quite a bit about Bed-Stuy from this string.</p>
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		<title>By: The Changeling</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Changeling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 02:31:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Oppressive writing?&quot; Xol, what are you talking about?  And West&#039;s music is better than Aventura&#039;s, in my opinion, and that has nothing to do with their backgrounds or black vs. brown.  Where is your sense of humor?  I certainly hope that YOU are not representative of this neighborhood!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Oppressive writing?&#8221; Xol, what are you talking about?  And West&#8217;s music is better than Aventura&#8217;s, in my opinion, and that has nothing to do with their backgrounds or black vs. brown.  Where is your sense of humor?  I certainly hope that YOU are not representative of this neighborhood!</p>
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		<title>By: Xol</title>
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		<dc:creator>Xol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Nov 2007 20:07:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi all,

I love both neighborhoods...as a former Bushwick resident, and a current Bed-stuy resident.  I have to say I&#039;m quite disappointed in in this blog, as a self identified afro-boricua I take offense to &quot;kanye west winning aventura music&quot; that comment goes beyond a battle of neighborhoods into a place I know we don&#039;t want to be at...cause it should NEVER EVER be Black vs. Brown.  Jeremy&#039;s postings are racist, and are NOT representative of Bushwick folks.  Just like THIS posting is not representative of Bed-stuy folks. Let&#039;s not indulge their opressive writing.

Bushwick and Bed-stuy are currently facing some incredible challenges in preserving the beauty of our communities which I hope is not run down by gentrification.  Our communities can NOT afford to be divided...because this is a crucial time for us to join in the effort to put a stop to gentrification, or at least make sure our people benefit in some way...ie: making sure a percentage of new developments are affordable units (just to name one tactic). 

Lets embrace the beauty both neighborhoods have to offer...and figure out ways to uplift one another.  Communities United will Never be Defeated. 

xol</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi all,</p>
<p>I love both neighborhoods&#8230;as a former Bushwick resident, and a current Bed-stuy resident.  I have to say I&#8217;m quite disappointed in in this blog, as a self identified afro-boricua I take offense to &#8220;kanye west winning aventura music&#8221; that comment goes beyond a battle of neighborhoods into a place I know we don&#8217;t want to be at&#8230;cause it should NEVER EVER be Black vs. Brown.  Jeremy&#8217;s postings are racist, and are NOT representative of Bushwick folks.  Just like THIS posting is not representative of Bed-stuy folks. Let&#8217;s not indulge their opressive writing.</p>
<p>Bushwick and Bed-stuy are currently facing some incredible challenges in preserving the beauty of our communities which I hope is not run down by gentrification.  Our communities can NOT afford to be divided&#8230;because this is a crucial time for us to join in the effort to put a stop to gentrification, or at least make sure our people benefit in some way&#8230;ie: making sure a percentage of new developments are affordable units (just to name one tactic). </p>
<p>Lets embrace the beauty both neighborhoods have to offer&#8230;and figure out ways to uplift one another.  Communities United will Never be Defeated. </p>
<p>xol</p>
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		<title>By: michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Nov 2007 15:52:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bed Stuy to i--

Don&#039;t kid yourself. These neighborhoods need new blood desperately. 

What these communities don&#039;t need however, is a racist. like Jeremy. It is truly disheartening that his Red Hook post is being defended.

And I know sarcasm when I read it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bed Stuy to i&#8211;</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t kid yourself. These neighborhoods need new blood desperately. </p>
<p>What these communities don&#8217;t need however, is a racist. like Jeremy. It is truly disheartening that his Red Hook post is being defended.</p>
<p>And I know sarcasm when I read it.</p>
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		<title>By: Bed Stuy to I die</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bed Stuy to I die</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2007 16:22:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Both of you are transplants and have no true history or ties to Bed Stuy or Bushwick... which there is no competition between the 2. Both communities are made up of working class citizens who blood sweat and tears build the vibrant areas you boast and brag about in your blogs all in an atttempt to gain social acceptability for your growing egos.  Its young gentrifiers like you who are causing distruction while ruining the social integrity of our communities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Both of you are transplants and have no true history or ties to Bed Stuy or Bushwick&#8230; which there is no competition between the 2. Both communities are made up of working class citizens who blood sweat and tears build the vibrant areas you boast and brag about in your blogs all in an atttempt to gain social acceptability for your growing egos.  Its young gentrifiers like you who are causing distruction while ruining the social integrity of our communities.</p>
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