Comments on: Wherefore Art Thou, Butternut Market? http://www.bedstuyblog.com/2009/01/wherefore-art-thou-butternut-market/ Bedford, Stuyvesant Heights & Tompkins Park North Sat, 02 Jul 2011 13:25:44 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.4 By: daveinbedstuy http://www.bedstuyblog.com/2009/01/wherefore-art-thou-butternut-market/comment-page-1/#comment-11433 daveinbedstuy Sun, 08 Feb 2009 16:51:27 +0000 http://www.bedstuyblog.com/?p=3070#comment-11433 Glad to hear that Chicco.. Looking forward to it. Glad to hear that Chicco.. Looking forward to it.

]]> By: The Changeling http://www.bedstuyblog.com/2009/01/wherefore-art-thou-butternut-market/comment-page-1/#comment-11432 The Changeling Sun, 08 Feb 2009 16:35:28 +0000 http://www.bedstuyblog.com/?p=3070#comment-11432 Hang in there, Chicco! We'll be waiting with hungry stomachs on opening day. Looking forward to meeting you! Hang in there, Chicco! We’ll be waiting with hungry stomachs on opening day. Looking forward to meeting you!

]]> By: chiccopiadina http://www.bedstuyblog.com/2009/01/wherefore-art-thou-butternut-market/comment-page-1/#comment-11431 chiccopiadina Sun, 08 Feb 2009 14:15:22 +0000 http://www.bedstuyblog.com/?p=3070#comment-11431 i want open but i still waiting for the gas i try open jast whith the brik owen but the dpt of health dont let me open i hope in 2 weeks i have the sign off and then we gonna open i m sorry for the waiting trust me i try my best chiccopiadina i want open but i still waiting for the gas
i try open jast whith the brik owen
but the dpt of health dont let me open
i hope in 2 weeks i have the sign off
and then we gonna open

i m sorry for the waiting

trust me
i try my best

chiccopiadina

]]> By: puya http://www.bedstuyblog.com/2009/01/wherefore-art-thou-butternut-market/comment-page-1/#comment-11381 puya Wed, 21 Jan 2009 19:47:11 +0000 http://www.bedstuyblog.com/?p=3070#comment-11381 DIBS, I know first hand what it takes to open up a restaurant - I did just that Nov 05'. It was a very tough and pocket draining process even when the economy was great. It's good to make a decision on whether to open up or not before you sink ALL of your money into a project. It's a tough decision to put a hold on things especially when you've already put in your time and money. The situation is even tougher if you would've put in for more permits, equipment etc. and then would've had to close down 6mos later. You did the right thing for you. Hopefully things will turn out and you will be able to open your business. When that happens, I will be one of your first customers! DIBS,

I know first hand what it takes to open up a restaurant – I did just that Nov 05′. It was a very tough and pocket draining process even when the economy was great.

It’s good to make a decision on whether to open up or not before you sink ALL of your money into a project. It’s a tough decision to put a hold on things especially when you’ve already put in your time and money. The situation is even tougher if you would’ve put in for more permits, equipment etc. and then would’ve had to close down 6mos later. You did the right thing for you. Hopefully things will turn out and you will be able to open your business. When that happens, I will be one of your first customers!

]]> By: The Changeling http://www.bedstuyblog.com/2009/01/wherefore-art-thou-butternut-market/comment-page-1/#comment-11380 The Changeling Tue, 20 Jan 2009 15:53:20 +0000 http://www.bedstuyblog.com/?p=3070#comment-11380 It sounds like it was a really challenging process. Thanks so much for this update, DIBS. It sounds like it was a really challenging process. Thanks so much for this update, DIBS.

]]> By: daveinbedstuy http://www.bedstuyblog.com/2009/01/wherefore-art-thou-butternut-market/comment-page-1/#comment-11379 daveinbedstuy Tue, 20 Jan 2009 14:59:47 +0000 http://www.bedstuyblog.com/?p=3070#comment-11379 Hi all. I was going to be the primary financial backer for Butternut. There are a number of issues but the answer is that its on an indefinite hold. tripp is largely correct. Both me and another financial backer had to put on the brakes because of the turmoil in the markets. The amount of money necessary to open it and guarantee working capital for 2-3 years before it reaches profitability would have been too much of a drain on us after the bottom fell out of the stock market. At the same time it began to look like the ability to turn a profit would take much longer as well. There were also more problems with the space on Lewis each time we learned more and more from the architect. A lot of these had to do with health department requirements for a restaurant that were going to be too costly for that particular building. I certainly apologize to all of you for getting your hopes up on this. No one wanted this more than I did. That said, there is a slight possibility that Ardenia can work with the owner of the building at the corner of Macon & Stuyvesant on this but that is also proving to be quite difficult. For now, she is back at Solomon's Porch where they've expanded the kitchen, hired new staff and have a new menu. I had a great steak frites there the other night. I'm glad to hear the news on Saraghina. Chicco (sp?) opened up one night about 2 months ago and gave away free pizza. They were some of the best pizzas I've ever had!!!! Hi all. I was going to be the primary financial backer for Butternut. There are a number of issues but the answer is that its on an indefinite hold. tripp is largely correct. Both me and another financial backer had to put on the brakes because of the turmoil in the markets. The amount of money necessary to open it and guarantee working capital for 2-3 years before it reaches profitability would have been too much of a drain on us after the bottom fell out of the stock market. At the same time it began to look like the ability to turn a profit would take much longer as well. There were also more problems with the space on Lewis each time we learned more and more from the architect. A lot of these had to do with health department requirements for a restaurant that were going to be too costly for that particular building.

I certainly apologize to all of you for getting your hopes up on this. No one wanted this more than I did.

That said, there is a slight possibility that Ardenia can work with the owner of the building at the corner of Macon & Stuyvesant on this but that is also proving to be quite difficult.

For now, she is back at Solomon’s Porch where they’ve expanded the kitchen, hired new staff and have a new menu. I had a great steak frites there the other night.

I’m glad to hear the news on Saraghina. Chicco (sp?) opened up one night about 2 months ago and gave away free pizza. They were some of the best pizzas I’ve ever had!!!!

]]> By: The Changeling http://www.bedstuyblog.com/2009/01/wherefore-art-thou-butternut-market/comment-page-1/#comment-11376 The Changeling Mon, 19 Jan 2009 15:59:24 +0000 http://www.bedstuyblog.com/?p=3070#comment-11376 That's why I don't think people should announce the opening of their business until they have all of the permits signed, work done and they are 99% sure that the opening is happening the next day. I know that business owners announce their plans with the best of intentions, but it ultimately leaves people who are looking forward to the opening feeling miserable when they find out that the plans have been scrapped. That’s why I don’t think people should announce the opening of their business until they have all of the permits signed, work done and they are 99% sure that the opening is happening the next day. I know that business owners announce their plans with the best of intentions, but it ultimately leaves people who are looking forward to the opening feeling miserable when they find out that the plans have been scrapped.

]]> By: tripp http://www.bedstuyblog.com/2009/01/wherefore-art-thou-butternut-market/comment-page-1/#comment-11375 tripp Mon, 19 Jan 2009 13:20:13 +0000 http://www.bedstuyblog.com/?p=3070#comment-11375 I heard they lost money when all this stock market stuff crashed...funds ran out I heard they lost money when all this stock market stuff crashed…funds ran out

]]> By: puya http://www.bedstuyblog.com/2009/01/wherefore-art-thou-butternut-market/comment-page-1/#comment-11372 puya Fri, 16 Jan 2009 22:40:19 +0000 http://www.bedstuyblog.com/?p=3070#comment-11372 Just a general comment - I have a restaurant in Brooklyn and the process with permits and the city is an extremely long and drawn out one. Rules change, contractors screw up, permit processing might just be slow or you end up with a pain in the butt inspector. Anytime a person opens a business the goal is to open up as quickly as possible. Many times you have a few "free" months in your lease but at a certain point rent kicks in regardless if the place has opened or if permits have gone through or not. NOBODY wants to take their time opening. I too have seen a dumpster and activity in front of the Butternut building or the one next door that is supposed to become a play gym for children. To me, it looked like work was being done on the building and not the businesses themselves. Just a general comment – I have a restaurant in Brooklyn and the process with permits and the city is an extremely long and drawn out one. Rules change, contractors screw up, permit processing might just be slow or you end up with a pain in the butt inspector. Anytime a person opens a business the goal is to open up as quickly as possible. Many times you have a few “free” months in your lease but at a certain point rent kicks in regardless if the place has opened or if permits have gone through or not. NOBODY wants to take their time opening.

I too have seen a dumpster and activity in front of the Butternut building or the one next door that is supposed to become a play gym for children. To me, it looked like work was being done on the building and not the businesses themselves.

]]> By: Ken http://www.bedstuyblog.com/2009/01/wherefore-art-thou-butternut-market/comment-page-1/#comment-11371 Ken Fri, 16 Jan 2009 19:56:49 +0000 http://www.bedstuyblog.com/?p=3070#comment-11371 Thanks for the info Maconstreetman! That block could use some transformation so let's hope that something is going into where Butternut was supposed to go and that the people behind Butternut will eventually find a space. That market is needed around here. Thanks for the info Maconstreetman! That block could use some transformation so let’s hope that something is going into where Butternut was supposed to go and that the people behind Butternut will eventually find a space. That market is needed around here.

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